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a Mel Kerwin said that he thought the concept the Housing Concerns Committee had been talking about had been licensing the real property , not just the manager . He asked if there had been any talk about that in Palo Alto . Joellyn Murphy said that revocation of such a license would remove needed housing units from the market- -and turn tenants out into the street . Jim Fales said that there were two business licenses , revenue producing and regulatory . The adopted 1972-73 budget for Redwood City includes provision for application to apply the business license to apartments , he said , and the budget predicted S15 , 000 in revenue from that source . If the ordinance is changed , he asked , what happens to the revenue ? Kathy Ha.haney asked if Palo Alto was going to assign staff to see that the ordinance was being respected , or would the procedures take► years to get action . Ma.±y Davey said that Palo Alto had employed MCFI, and that MCFH, could follow up -- on the ordinance . Joellyn Murphy said that Palo Alto has an inspection depart- ment that can look into such things . Mel Kerwin asked how the ordinance proposed to prevent discrimination . Joellyn Murphy said that its guts were the requirement that the owners and managers post lists of the vacancies , their costs , whether or not a credit check is required , etc . This takes care of ninety percent of the cases of discrimin- ation that MCFH has found . Being able to take the manager ' s license away gives it teeth . Mel Kerwin asked if the Attorney ' s Office thought this is something that Redwood City could explore . Mike Riback said that, yes , the City could explore it .. He said that apparently Palo Alto was expecting some revenue gain above and beyond expenditures from the licensing . But he said that he was concerned that there may be a strong possibility that the ordinance may be pre-empted by the Rumford Fair Housing Act . The Palo Alto ordinance concerns landlord-tenant relations and discrimination, and it is an attempt to deter discrimination . Also the Redwood City charter differs from that of Palo Alto , he said , and the Attorney would have to look to see if this kind of ordinance would be 'compatible with the charter . Mel Kerwin asked if the City could have two licensing ordinances- - one revenue producing and one regulatory . Jim Fales said that he imagines that the Palo Alto Attorney ' s office fully expects the property owners to challenge this ordinance . Furthermore , he said , the City might be in an awkward position legally if it took a strong position for having the pre-emption clause dropped at the same time arguing in court that it didn ' t need it . Mary Davey wondered if that wasn ' t just "hedging bets" and if the State Legislature didn ' t do it all the time . Jim Pales said that if...you set up a regulatory ordinance zeroing in on the apartment manager , all the other problems of landlord-tenant relations are left MINUTES HOUSING CONCERNS COMI'4I'.1"TEE OCTOBER 11 , 1972 PAGE 11. OF 5