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6.1.A. - Page 9 One Council Member noted she does not like micro-management but she does like to set policy. A Council Member noted that public art is a policy discussion and she recalls a vote when Civic Cultural Commission was going to be merged with Parks and Recs and it was a 4-3 vote and that shows the passions in the Council. She believes that the economic times intensify those emotions. She would never group the Housing and Human Concerns Commission grants with public art, because for her these are different. Another Council Member opined that this is a discussion about process and how Council wants to be involved and in his view there is an unfinished conversation about public art. This Council Member does not recall taking a vote. This Council Member is not passionate about this art but he is neutral. He believes this is an enabler for a policy discussion on the matter and for him this could be a positive thing. He also inquired how other cities handle this and Mr. Beth said that some cities do a percent per art ordinance. He noted that Palo Alto is one of these. This Council Member would like to see the process revised so Council can have a say. Vice Mayor Gee noted that for him this is about process. He believes there is an opportunity for greater conversation between the Council and the commissions so the Council can determine policy. He is not interested in micro-managing but the process needs to improve. Another Council Member would like to set parameters to address these issues, but he does not believe Council should be the one deciding. He wants to research it and set the guidelines, but not really having Council voting on items. Mayor Aguirre noted that we have great artists in Redwood City and for her this was a concern. Barbara Britschgi, former Chair of the Civic Cultural Commission, opined that this dialogue is wonderful. The Commission thought that they were helping Council by doing the work first and then presenting it to Council for approval. She appealed to Council to consider this and to trust the commissioners. She noted that while the artist is from Oregon, there are five more artists that could be from Redwood City and she asked Council to support the Commission. For clarification purposes the Mayor said there were two parts to this. One part was to ratify what was done and another to deal with the remainder of the money and she was not sure if there was a third option. Mr. Bell noted that the $450 has already been spent. One Council Member suggested the art be given to the Peninsula Arts Council. M/S Ira/Seybert to ratify award of the $450 and hold off on the remainder of the money. Then, allocate it back to the Civic Cultural Commission for reallocation if they decide to spend it again via public art the item to be vetted through the City Council. Council Member Pierce will vote not because she would rather have the Civic Cultural Commission have the $5,000 for this project. She would prefer that Council have a conversation on this topic. Motion carried 5-2 with Council Members Foust and Pierce opposing. MINUTE ORDER 12-051 M/S Pierce/Bain to find a place to have BOB posted. One Council Member would like to have the sculpture stay where it is. Another Council Member also said they would oppose the motion because she believes there is already public art in numerous buildings and that is supported by business owners. This Council Member offered to JOINT CITY COUNCIUSUCCESSOR AGENCY February 27, 2012 MEETING MINUTES PAGE 9