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fourteen or more units because of scarcity of resources , vit this amounted to 123 developments . Assistant City Manager Jim Smith asked if they were considering doing an audit of discrimination against chicanos. Joellyn Murphy said that they were currently carrying out their first full- scale chicano/white audit and thought that the discrimination might be less . But a good number of the complaints that come to MCFH independently , she said , were from chicanos , many of them in mixed marriages . Paul Keckley said that he thought it interesting that some of the black auditors had felt that they had been quite well received by the apartment managers , only to discover when they compared notes with their counterpart white auditors that the managers had given them the runaround . Joellyn Murphy said that she thought that was why MCFH didn ' t get more complaints . Mary Henderson remarked that the state of the art in discriminating was becoming more refined . Joellyn Murphy said that this was only the first level of discrimination , and that the second level was the credit check- -black credit is somehow not good enough no matter how much money you make . Fred Soderer asked who represents apartment owners . Joellyn Murphy replied that the Tri -County Apartment Owners Association does , and that "I ' m sure you ' ll be hearing from them. " Mary Henderson asked when the affirmative action program could be presented . Joellyn Murphy said in two weeks , if necessary . Paul Keckley suggested that it be presented at the earliest time possible . Earl Milton of NAACP asked if the program had been presented elsewhere . Joellyn Murphy said that it had been in Palo Alto , Menlo Park, and Cupertino . She said MCFH presented an outline from which the cities could work out details . None of their proposed ordinances have been passed , she said . Housing Aide Ransom pointed out that MCFH used essentially conservative meb ods in assessing die^rimination and that discrimination against chicanos and people of low economic means such as welfare mothers was not assessed . Joellyn Murphy said that it was not illegal to discriminate against women because of their marital status and that MCFH was not planning an audit along those lines . She agreed that their methods were conservative , and said that the blacks in their teams are , if anything , told to tell the apartment manager that they have higher salaries and better jobs than their white teammates . MCFH had found that some apartment owners indeed encourage black tenants , but they have to be "the right kind" of blacks . Mary Henderson suggested that the representatives of the apartment owners association be invited to the HCC meeting which discussed the MPH proposals . Paul Keckley suggested that the HCC had better start meeting in the Community Activities Building (1400 Roosevelt Avenue ) because so many people were coming and would want to come . Housing Aide Ransom suggested that as the HCC began to discuss specific proposals to alleviate the housing crisis , it might want to hold public hearings in the evenings on the off-weeks when there was no HCC morning meeting . MINUTES HOUSING CONCERNS COMMITTEE TTEE JUNE 14 , 1972 PAGE 3 OF 4