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Manager Pales said he was suggesting the HRC technique as an alternative . If they are ineffective because they don ' t want to be effective , then the City Council could do something else , he said , but if they are ineffective because of Rumford Act pre -emption, then that problem must be solved by the State Legislature . Gene Moriguchi said that the problem was not the HRC or the FEPC , but that the laws had been"designed to be window dressing . " Mary Davey said that the HCC should conduct the interviews with the owners because the HCC is a Redwood City organization , and the problem was a Redwood City problem. She said that it would be an educationally valuable experience for the 1CC to participate , and that , in MCFH experience , the HRC workload does not allow them to do a thorough job . She suggested the HCC consider splitting the load with the HRC . • Joellyn Murphy said that, although MCFH had found 53 violations in Redwood City , this probably represented a lesser number of owners , and that a two-and-a-half- hour commitment by each committee member would probably suffice . Most interviews take fifteen minutes , she said . In Palo Alto , twenty of twenty-five owners had voluntarily come to the meetings , she said . She said she felt that the technique was successful in lessening discrimination . Paul Keckley questioned whether the reference in the proposed letter to apartment owners to a "commitment to enforcement" of fair housing laws would require City Council action . Manager Pales replied that he thought the key was referring to "the City ' s commitment to the enforcement" of fair housing laws . He said the letter could list the fair hou,:ing laws . Mary Davey suggested the City use the HUD logo poster listing the five points of law and stating that "Discrimination in Housing is Illegal . " Bob Norris was worried that as time lengthened after the survey its impact was lessening . He said he ' d like to see some communication go out to these owners . He moved , and Gene Moriguchi seconded , that the letter be sent out. Housing Aide Ransom said that he was worried that if the letter talked of a commitment to the enforcement of the fair housing laws but no enforcement was forthcoming, this sort of tactic would "have no teeth. " Some way had to be found , he said , to bring the violators to court . Gene Moriguchi suggested that the housing law experts at San Mateo County Legal Aid might be willing to provide input in researching and writing an ordinance . The question was called, and the motion carried unanimously . The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 35 A .M. The next meeting of the Housing Concerns Committee is Wednesday, July 25 , 1972 . MINUTES HOUSING CONCERNS COMMITTEE JULY 12 , 1972 PAGE 5 OF 5