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Housing Report , he said . But it will need to be updated with the data from the recently released "Fourth Count" of the 1970 Census . In doing so , Ransom said , it will also be possible to answer some of the research questions posed in the Manager ' s memorandum , notably on what arc the precise dimensions of the need for low/moderate-income housing in terms of income and rent levels , numbers of families , size and age of families . Ransom also pointed out that the State guidelines call citizens ' participation one of the most important of all aspects in the development of a housing element . " The HCC fills this function , he said , but the State guidelines strongly suggested that the "citizen advisors " be a broadly based , community-wide "consumer-producer " committee . Since to his knowledge only one member of the Committee is a renter , and that member is considering buying a home , Ransom wondered if the empty seat ought not only be filled by a Chicano , but one who • rents . Jim Pales remarked that if the "Problem" and Obstacle ' sections can be done first , then the City will be in a better situation to decide how finite the "Program" section should be . He said that the Housing Element should state broad goals rather than attempt to detail programs . Otherwise it will be 1975 before we get the Housing Element , he said . Meantime , his office will be bringing in programa.tic suggestions to the Committee . Planning Director Ken Schroeter said that he thought that working on housing was a lifetime project . He said that it was an illusion to think that the housing problem could be solved in a short time . He suggested that the Committee not think in terms of solving the problem, but of ameliorating it . Bob Norris said that he thought the Housing Element was a necessary first step in that direction . Lou Knowles said that he thought that in municipal government there were two worlds , the real world and the world of planning . Sometimes they touch, he said , but too often the world of planning comes up with five -year plans that don ' t consider what ' s really going on in the community . He said that the housing problem in Redwood City should be part of the bargaining process with the private enterprise sector, where the money for solving the housing problem is to be found . He said that the Committee should press forward , so that the City has a housing policy that it can use to deal with private enterprise . LANDLORD AND TENANT ACT Ransom said that the governors of the various states appointed judges and lawyers to the Conference of Commissioners on Uniform ,State Laws . They have come up with the "Uniform Residential Landlord and Tenant Act" which is now going before the various state legislatures for adoption. Our own Assembly Judiciary Committee will hold hearings on the Act on October 12 and 13. Ransom said he had written the committee concerning the possibility of Redwood City testifying at the hearings and had enclosed a copy of his memorandum "The Status of Renters in Redwood City . " The committee ' s assistant counsel had called on September, 15 to invite the City to testify , Ransom reported . He had been excited that Redwood City was concerned with landlord and tenant MINUTES HOUSING CONCERNS COMMITTEE SEPTEMBER 27 , 1972 PAGE 2 OF 5