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33` <br /> Farm Hill Blvd . Chief of Police expressed the belief that the driving public <br /> as a whole know what is a safe speed , and noted that when this matter was <br /> before Council three years earlier , he had felt that the speed limit should <br /> be raised, because the majority were driving faster than the limit . He felt <br /> that if there were rigid enforcement of the 25 mph limit , 91 out of 100 cars <br /> would receive a citation , and there were not enough patrolmen to enforce that <br /> limit . In response to question concerning speed limits in the area of John <br /> Gill School Chief of Police noted that the law stipulates requirement for <br /> posting signs in school zones , and that speed must still be reduced to 25 mph <br /> within those zones . An exception in the statutes would apply for a particular <br /> school having a fenced playground, and a completely fenced school ground to <br /> separate the children from the street , then the limit is not enforceable , <br /> except when children are going to and from school . <br /> Councilman Williams questioned whether City ' s signalization program might <br /> substantially change the 85% figures the studies had shown to a slower speed . <br /> Chief of Police felt this will have no effect on the speed vehicles are <br /> traveling now , but would be more convenient for them because the signals are <br /> the demand type , which stay green unless a car is entering from specified <br /> cross streets , and further , would be quieter , since there would be less <br /> braking to boulevard stop signs . Councilman Leipzig questioned whether it <br /> was felt , if the limits were raised , that the driving public would exceed <br /> the new limit , and Chief of Police indicated they would not . <br /> With respect to whether City could make its own determination as to speeds , <br /> City Manager responded that the percentiles were established as a result of <br /> the survey, and the State law makes it clear that either cities conduct <br /> studies , and post speed limits in accordance with the studies in order to <br /> use radar , or post limits arbitrarily, in which case radar could not be <br /> used . These were the two basic alternatives . <br /> Councilman Weymouth recalled that in the previous occasion when this subject <br /> was discussed , the recommendation was to increase the limit to 35 mph . Chief <br /> of Police affirmed this , but noted that it was without benefit of a traffic <br /> engineering study, and was based on his personal observation that the exist- <br /> ing limit was unrealistic compared with the limit the public was driving . <br /> He added that by setting a speed limit that is in accordance with an engineer- <br /> ing survey at 40 mph on this street , this would allow his officers to write <br /> radar citations at 41 mph, and these would be upheld by the court . He noted <br /> he would rather have his officers work this way than to allow leeway , and <br /> then have to write a two-page document to justify why an individual should <br /> be cited . <br /> Mayor Keckley invited comments from the audience . <br /> 4/2/73 <br /> Reg . Mtg . <br />