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114 <br /> argument favoring lowering standards in the code points <br /> out that these are minimal standards , and the code does <br /> not prohibit higher standards , but the average home <br /> buyer does not have the expertise to know what to ask <br /> the plumber to put in . Another objection cited was the <br /> fact that anything relating to workmanship has been <br /> stricken from the Code , whereas previously written <br /> into a contract was a provision that if installation is <br /> not done in a workmanlike manner , the plumber corrects <br /> the work without charge . <br /> He expressed a number of objections to the use of <br /> plastic pipe , which he indicated was either , if of good <br /> quality , prohibitive in cost , or if competitive in price <br /> to cast iron, could give off toxic fumes in event of a <br /> fire , and deteriorated more rapidly than metals . He <br /> asked that Council defer decision until documentation <br /> and demonstrations could be presented . He felt the <br /> homeowner should have at least as much protection as <br /> high rise , industrial and commercial buildings , where <br /> the code standards are higher . <br /> Chief Building Official was requested by Mayor Keckley to respond to various <br /> points made . He began by noting that the Local had been informed as far <br /> back as October 1971 that the City fully intended to update the Codes essen- <br /> tially as presented to Council at this time , and which had the sanction of <br /> the Board of Building Review . It had also been strongly recommended that <br /> the trade unions actively participate where code changes are being con- <br /> sidered . He cited only one instance where plastic pipe had been installed <br /> too tightly , but was subsequently corrected and caused no problem since . He <br /> advised there are still requirements for cleanouts . He indicated provisions <br /> require temperature or pressure relief valves , or energy cut-off manufactured <br /> with the heater, and these safety features are there . With respect to <br /> plastic pipe , it was felt that this was only a small part of the considera- <br /> tion , since buildings are permitted to be constructed of combustible materi- <br /> als . In response to question by Councilman Rhodes , he advised that the code <br /> is essentially the same for commercial and residential buildings , except <br /> for the plastic pipe . He indicated in response to question by Councilman <br /> Norris that plastic pipe is not subject to accumulation of mineral deposits <br /> nor corrosion as metal pipe is . Also , smaller drain lines that are full <br /> provide a better flushing action than a larger line that is not full . <br /> Mr . Hunter indicated that it was the feeling of the <br /> plumbing industry that the plumbing code was in fact <br /> a local matter , and must be according to local condi- <br /> tions . He felt that if every area in the United States <br /> had the same standards of this County , there would be <br /> no objection to a National Code , and their basic argu- <br /> ment related to lowering the standards . <br /> Ronald Krieg, 3726 Laurel Way, advised he was a plumb- <br /> er and indicated the key issue was minimum standards . <br /> Tony Ramiriz , Menlo Park, member of plumbers union for <br /> many years , spoke of lessening standards and this <br /> allows someone less than a journeyman to do plumbing <br /> work . <br /> Andy Sabhlok, of Associated Home Buildings of the <br /> Greater East Bay, advised they were pleased to see <br /> the ordinances proposed with few exceptions . He <br /> named several neighboring cities which had already <br /> adopted the Code . <br /> 7/24/72 <br /> Reg . Mtg . <br />