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5 advised it was necessary for Council at this time to carry out the same intent of the Engineer ' s plans as presented at the time of the bond issue ; however , since that plan was stated in somewhat general terms , good engineering practice would follow to finalize plans at later stages when reviewing specific portions of the creek , to make final specific recommendations , and if found not necessary to include a portion of the creek for any type of improvement , then Council may exempt a portion because not in plan to begin with . In reply to question as to whether if this portion exempted from improvements at this time , and it was subsequently determined through experience improvements needed , would Council be precluded from making improvement of any kind , City Attorney ad - vised Council may always , on evaluation of facts on later information , make a determination to construct public improvements for sake of public improvements for sake of public safety and welfare . City Attorney advised further a determination would have to be made at this time on basis of need , not on basis of preserving landscaping , or whether majority of property owners for or against improvements , as to do so would be in effect ignoring responsibility of public improvement re - lating to needs of entire City and District . The following appeared : Tom Hattie , 2720 Kensington Road , indicated need of improvements from Alameda to Maddux . City Manager stated it would be his recommendation that Council authorize Staff to proceed with preparation of preliminary engineering drawings for this specific portion of creek, directing efforts to containing flood waters by way of piping , if feasible . I Mayor Bury noted that several references had been made to debris which had been dumped in creek areas , causing jams and flooding . Mr . Batsford advised work to reach point of a recommendation requires field survey in creek areas which would probably take two weeks , and thereafter two months before all data would be available in order to make a report and recommendation for best solution from an engineering and economic standpoint . Dr . Robert Dorin , 1563 Granger Way , reported there had been no problems with creek in area adjacent to his property for past fifteen years , as this section not faced with same problems as that below and felt improvements should not be made in this section , Councilman Henderson noted that she had seen evidence of bank erosion on some of the properties in this section , as she was a neighbor to Dr . Dorin , and partially why she felt potential of piping must be examined for this section . Since it had been also stated property owners had not been individually notified of hearings in this section , City Manager agreed it would be possible when plans and specifications have been prepared indicating type of improvements needed , that property owners could be notified prior to Council approval . Mrs . Helen Danielson , 27 .8 Carolina , stated no questionnaire as mentioned by the Director of Public Works had been received by her . It was explained the questionnaire was sent only to owners along the Stulsaft Branch and Kensington Avenue . t. ., ajd