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91 advised that`25,000 miles per vehicle is the break-even point in savings and that in tests invotving two police cars, the laboratory suggested use of the oil should be stopped after 9,000 and 8,000 miles because of damage being done to the vehicles. ' Leisure Cultural and Information Services Program (see above also) Corr¢nent was made concerning the extreme popularity of soccer; its long season which overlaps that of other sports, the lack of fields for play and practice, the fact that fiscal con- straints would probably prevent the school district from making fields at schools to be closed available to the City for the use of soccer, the fact that school fields are in use for soccer now, and whether any possibil�ties exist for the City to make arrangements to make additional soccer fields avail- able at little or no cost. (The Council recessed from 11.35 a.m. to 1:35 p m.) PRELIMINARY REPORT RE FINANCIAL AND SERVICE IMPACT OF PROPOSITION 13 (�ARVIS-GANN INITIATIVE) City Manager Fales advised he will submit a proposed budget for all departments in accordance with Charter requirements and also an optional budget to be used if the sub�ect initiative passes. Be- cause of staff time involved, the optional budget will have to be submitted after the regular one which must be submitted not later ' than the first meeting in May Lengthy discussion followed and Mr. Fales commented and replied to questions concerning the desirability of considering the regular and optional budgets independently, the fact that consideration might be given to alternative sources of revenue in the event property taxes are to be denied to cit�es or greatly reduced, whether the first year following approval of the lnitiative will be the worst with more adequate funds being available later from sources other than property tax; whether a freeze on all hiring should be established, the fact that the C�ty's budget has been cut so much in recent years that very little reserve exists, whether a hiring freeze would apply to positions funded by other than property tax, the fact that the Police Depart- ment is presently below manpower needs, whether or not it is des�r- able at this time to consider alternative sources of revenue avail- able to the City such as utility users tax, admissions tax, etc., the likelihood of increased state income taxes, the fact that if cities are forced to rely upon grants from the State it can be ex- pected that such grants will have strings attached as to what use may be made of them which may or may not be in accord with the priorities of residents of the City, the fact that the Jarvis-Gann . Im tiative would become effective July 1, 1978 leaving only three weeks to consider and adopt an optional budget, and the fact that the City Manager must take a conservative approach to preparing a budget for the funds that might be available. Discussion continued concerning the manner in which citizens mi9ht � indicate what local government services they want and how they w�sh to pay for them, the fact that the Legislature does not seem to be able to respond in a reasonable period of time, the fact that if it _4_ Budget Study 2/6/78