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also agreed with the suggested changes to the Pride and Beautification Committee. This same Council Member spoke about the fact that in her own analysis 65% to 70% of the General Budget came from the business community, so she supported a community pride award that acknowledged schools, businesses and residents. The two Council Members, who made and seconded the motion, noted that their comments about money were not directed at anothe� Council Member, and how the figures were the reason this was discussed for the savings and the leveraging. The finro opined that the issue of the money was clearly outlined in the staff report; therefore, the comments were not directed at anybody. One Council Member could not accept the change, because it was more than a change in name and in her opinion it would change its focus considerably. It was this Council Member's view that it was the arts and cultures that saved our downtown. The other Council Member said that he did not mean any offense to anyone. He thought that the goal was to save money but still he could not see a clear case made for changing the charge of the CCC. Mayor Ira noted that it was never about money, but about efficiencies and saving staff time. He noted that during the retreat the Council asked about the figures. That in fact the figures were requested by Council at the retreat to be provided and this was what staff was doing. Vice Mayor Aguirre noted that this was a process to begin an evaluation of our structure, conduct peer review, identify best practices and we were very lucky we did not have to cut staff. She expressed her gratitude to all the BCCs and all the volunteers, who gave so much. By the same token, she believed we must try new approaches since we had already cut staff. She supported these kinds of conversations and felt that the Council was elected to do this. In her opinion, Council had to change and evolve with circumstances and the direction of the city. Another Council Member noted that he could not support this motion, because this made sense to him and it did not devalue this body. This did not mean he did not value arts and culture. It was just that this change made sense to him. Another Council Member noted this was about efficiency and not money, and how over the last three years 70 positions have been eliminated. He noted that every BCC was in competition for staff resources which had been decreased. He believed the goal was to be more efficient with less and this was another area we were looking at just like we looked at everything else. This Council Member would like this review done on a regular basis because then it might become easier. Mayor Ira said that the question was how they fit into the Council's priorities and goals and how much they contributed to making these happen. He believed this BCC contributed greatly to the Council priorities. He pondered on what was the change that would happen if they were an advisory versus a full commission. He was leaning towards leaving them as they were and spending a little more time analyzing the situation. Dr. Bell said that the tracking system would be helpful on the issue of staff hours. He said that there was a lot of learning in this process. One Council Member said that we must manage the hours like it happens in the private industry. He believed that management needed to be able to assess how many hours are being spent on BCCs. JOINT CITY COUNCIUREDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD June 27, 2011 MEETING/BUDGET STUDY SESSION II MINUTES PAGE 12 MINUTE BOOK NO. 63 Page No. 361