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said that he thought the City ' s position on low/moderate-income housing was clear . Lou Knowles said that he didn ' t know what the City ' s bargaining position is on low/moderate-housing and the Shores , and he wasn ' t sure Mobil did , either . Too often he said , that ' s the sort of thing that ' s decided after the deal is closed . His group was saying that "housing has got to be part of the final deal . " The public wants to know Mobil ' s proposal and the City ' s response , he said , and the evening session would not be premature at all . Paul Keckley said that the City has never before had an official proposal from Mobil . He said that the City had asked them to stop talking to all sorts of people in the community and then coming to the City after that , but to give them something in writing . The City had just received a written proposal from Mobil , he said . It had been turned over to City staff for study and recommen- dations . After that the City will set it up for public hearing, he said . " The Committee could run around and spin our wheels , " he said , but if Mobil backs out and some other group comes in and the Committee has to hold hearing about its proposal, "we' ll never have a Housing Element . " Louis Knowles asked if the housing element could be completed before the Mobil hearings . He asked if the new Mobil proposal said anything about housing . Planning Director Ken Schroeter said that it had in it essentially the same proposal for low/moderate -income housing as Mobil had made to the Planning Commission . Bob Norris said that at some time the City is going to have to sit down and decide what Redwood Shores "is going to look like . " The more dissimilar Redwood Shores is made to look from the rest of the City, the more difficult it will be for Shores residents to accept . The only way is to have a City-wide low/moderate- income housing program- -" an umbrella" over the whole city . Then Redwood Shores will have to take its share . " If you try to shove- -shove in the sense of allocate-- 5 , 10, 20 percent out there you ' re not going to get it out there . " Louis Knowles said that if that was the sense of the Committee it should pass a resolution urging that the City Council resolve not to hold hearings on the Shores until the City has a Housing Element . • Paul Keckley said that the City will be responding to the proposal and "that ' s the way it ' s going to be handled . " Max Rice asked when the City was going to respond to the proposal. Paul Keckley said that the City Council would be responding after staff had studied it and made recommendations . Max Rice asked if the Housing Concerns Committee was not going to study the proposal . Paul Keckley said that three Councilmen were Committee members . Max Rice said that they only composed a third of the Committee and that he was disturbed that the Committee as a whole would "have no input . Paul Keckley said that he was disturbed that Max Rice would think that . If the three Council members couldn ' t represent the sense of the Committee to the Council , perhaps the wrong Council members were on the Committee . \\ MINUTES HOUSING CONCERNS COMMITThE OCTOBER 25 , 1972 PAGE 2 OF 5 •